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	<title>Comments on: Relocation Of Endangered Chinese Turtle May Save Species</title>
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		<title>By: kittymowmow</title>
		<link>http://www.kittymowmow.com/2008/05/21/relocation-of-endangered-chinese-turtle-may-save-species/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
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		<description>Hi fragiledestiny, 

I&#039;m not sure, but it&#039;s a definite possibility.  Find out why I think so by reading the rest of this long comment. ;)

I Googled &quot;&quot;Turtle shell&quot; mathematics&quot; and didn&#039;t find very much relevant information on the first page except for a link to page 85 of a book called &quot;What Number is God?: Metaphors, Metaphysics, Metamathematics, and the Nature of Things&quot; (written by Sarah Voss, publish Albany, N.Y. : State University of New York Press, 1995).  Here&#039;s an excerpt:

&quot;According to an ancient Chinese legend, about 2,000 years before the birth of Jesus, a man name Wu of Hsia made improvements that stopped the disastrous floodings of the Yellow River.  As a result, Wu became emperor.  While he was making these improvements, he discovered a turtle with unusual markings on its shell.  Since common belief then held that God resided in the shell of a turtle and the horns of the water buffalo, Wu took this encounter as a sign of blessing and a source of inspiration. On the basis of the markings on this turtle shell, he developed a system that incorporated the collective knowledge of the time with guidelines for living a happy prosperous life. 

&quot;[...] Modern science depicts this same turtle shell in perfectly &#039;acceptable&#039; college general mathematics text where it is used to introduce a discussion of magic squares and &#039;The Nature of Patterns and Inductive Reasoning.&#039; 

&quot;[...] The open and dark circular figures on the turtle shell (reflecting male and female energies or numbers, respectively) are translated into [a] numerical square pattern.

&quot;The unusual and mathematically intriguing characteristic about this pattern is that the sum of numbers in any row, column, or diagonal is always &#039;magically&#039; fifteen.&quot;

Since the turtle in this legend was found by a Chinese man (who was probably in China at the time), perhaps he found a Yangtze giant softshell turtle.

Thanks for asking me this question.  I feel like a learned a lot while researching the answer. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi fragiledestiny, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure, but it&#8217;s a definite possibility.  Find out why I think so by reading the rest of this long comment. <img src='http://www.kittymowmow.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I Googled &#8220;&#8221;Turtle shell&#8221; mathematics&#8221; and didn&#8217;t find very much relevant information on the first page except for a link to page 85 of a book called &#8220;What Number is God?: Metaphors, Metaphysics, Metamathematics, and the Nature of Things&#8221; (written by Sarah Voss, publish Albany, N.Y. : State University of New York Press, 1995).  Here&#8217;s an excerpt:</p>
<p>&#8220;According to an ancient Chinese legend, about 2,000 years before the birth of Jesus, a man name Wu of Hsia made improvements that stopped the disastrous floodings of the Yellow River.  As a result, Wu became emperor.  While he was making these improvements, he discovered a turtle with unusual markings on its shell.  Since common belief then held that God resided in the shell of a turtle and the horns of the water buffalo, Wu took this encounter as a sign of blessing and a source of inspiration. On the basis of the markings on this turtle shell, he developed a system that incorporated the collective knowledge of the time with guidelines for living a happy prosperous life. </p>
<p>&#8220;[...] Modern science depicts this same turtle shell in perfectly &#8216;acceptable&#8217; college general mathematics text where it is used to introduce a discussion of magic squares and &#8216;The Nature of Patterns and Inductive Reasoning.&#8217; </p>
<p>&#8220;[...] The open and dark circular figures on the turtle shell (reflecting male and female energies or numbers, respectively) are translated into [a] numerical square pattern.</p>
<p>&#8220;The unusual and mathematically intriguing characteristic about this pattern is that the sum of numbers in any row, column, or diagonal is always &#8216;magically&#8217; fifteen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since the turtle in this legend was found by a Chinese man (who was probably in China at the time), perhaps he found a Yangtze giant softshell turtle.</p>
<p>Thanks for asking me this question.  I feel like a learned a lot while researching the answer. <img src='http://www.kittymowmow.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fragiledestiny</title>
		<link>http://www.kittymowmow.com/2008/05/21/relocation-of-endangered-chinese-turtle-may-save-species/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>fragiledestiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 00:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are Chinese Turtles the one who&#039;s shell is like a magic square in mathematics?

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